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Bad to worse conditions - protective finish on your defensive handgun

** A common question especially in the tropics is "in the worst conditions; which finish holds up the best?"

Even though Springfield XDs started to employ a Melonite finish like Smith & Wesson's M&P, it still does rust.

From what has been seen with store inventory, if not kept oiled, just one handling session can cause rust. With

consumer's guns - if circumstances led to not being able to oil and maintain the firearms, it will be apparent.

Many claim "XDs or M&Ps don't rust" - try a mild 'natural disaster' test and they will. So will Sig's Nitron.

The tennifer treatment of Glock hanguns is undeniably the best in tropic / marine climates or in adverse

conditions. Also, contrary to what many articles claim, matte stainless of various handguns is the worst,

as the brown of rust is more visible and freckling is bound to happen - those who train hard will see it.

Since I utilize a large number of handguns for teaching and personal use; if it can rust, I get it refinished with

special rust-resistant coatings. Operating a shop & teaching each week with many (20+) class guns requires it.

Rain.  Salt rain.  Seen here on many class guns, water all over and inside the handguns. If not protected; yikes!

How many would even think of letting their guns get rained on? This is why HK's Hostile Environment finish

and Glock's Tennifer finish are hands down the best in the industry. Why don't more companies follow their lead?

Guns in use:  Foreground: HK P2000 with their HE finish.    Background: Sig P228 with Robar's NP3 finish.

HK and Glock finishes are factory standard!  Robar's NP3 is satin gray teflon-nickel, I'd say well worth the cost.

20+ guns in this picture; 30+ different class guns are possible for a handgun class.

If it doesn't come with a good enough factory rust-resistant finish, or have a worthy aftermarket

finish already done, I send the firearm(s) out ASAP after "break-in" to get protective coatings applied.

It is a great relief when having to deal with bad weather, constant usage situations, and cleaning/maintenance.

 

Cerakote Finishes

Spray and bake finish, costs more than simpler finishes, even more durable.

   

   

Cerakote (ceramic based) coating services - an example above is a Springfield XD-45 in Flat Dark Earth.

   

Cerakote Flat Dark Earth and Matte Black appointments on a Sig P220.

Cerakote Gray receiver and barrel on a custom build Saiga 12ga.

 

Robar Coating Technologies Services

Featured: NP3 finish

   

Before sending up this Sig P226, several hundred rounds had been fired. In fact, the wear marks on the barrel

become prevalent even in frequent cycling of the slide just by hand, let alone within the first hundred rounds.

These pictures follow the P226 before and after the NP3 process. Prep work included some de-horning.

   

Rear of slide had extremely sharp points that got beveled before the protective NP3 refinishing was applied.

Constant handling of Sigs by serious users will reveal the rust that starts on all steel parts of the Sig handgun.

Sigs (and others) I use for teaching get the NP3 (satin gray) or Roguard (satin black) finish applied to them

as they get handled weekly by many shooters. The NP3 finish also makes cleaning very easy after firing.

   

Even if the slide inscription says 'stainless' it still rusts, along with the control levers and grip screws.

Those who don't believe it or don't agree - leave a Sig un-oiled for a day or two after handling it.

Run an oiled white patch across the steel and it will turn rust brown. Some witness this the same day as firing!

   

A finished Sig P226, very nice contrast and even with lots of firing and holster usage, the excellent NP3 finish

resists wear and gets smoother as time goes on. Unlike hard chrome or nickel finishes, NP3 can be reliably

applied to aluminum as well as steel, and does not allow rust to creep under the finish. NP3 is easy to clean

and very rust resistant. The only other finish within any comparison is Glock's Tennifer finish - and that is

a process done by Glock's factory and goes below the steel surface, almost becoming the surface itself.

    

 Sig P228 complete NP3 finish. Trigger guard gets slightly polished from holster use. Mags, parts stay rust free!

 Picture on right: some examples of Robar Coating Technologies' NP3 finish on parts that are rustable steel. 

 

Cleaning made easier with Robar Technologies' NP3

   

 Rub marks appearing on barrel after firing is easily wiped off. NP3 finish is so slick that fouling cannot adhere.

   

Locking block, inside of frame: Carbon fouling wipes right off. NP3'd barrel exterior, recoil spring guide too.

Inside of barrel is not NP3'd, so clean it as usual with bore brush, solvent, oil, etc.

   

Slide breechface and under extractor: A nylon brush does it and that's without any harsh solvents or liquids!

    Clean under the extractor, and once that is done the rest is an easy wipe-down.

   

Within slide recesses, cleaning can be with paper towels; without harsh solvents. Light oiling and it's done.

   

The bolt assembly and inside the reciever of a NP3 coated Thompson after 400 rounds were fired.

   

Cleaning promptly yields an easier time at it, again most of the carbon fouling is wiped off with paper towels!

 

Robar Technologies' Roguard Finish

Springfield XD pistol before being sent for refinishing with Roguard exterior and NP3 interior.

Roguard: a satin black corrosion resistant finish, applied to rustable steel parts like trigger, crosspins, slide.

Internal parts like locking block, trigger bar, firing pin block are NP3'd and almost eliminate the rust concern.

These finishes also make it easier to clean the firearms and increase lubricity of parts and smoother function.

   

 

Robar Technologies' Forward Slide Serrations

Sig P220 and P226 before cutting of slide serrations and Roguarding. Pencil lines indicate planned serrations.

The after picture: forward slide serrations cut and refinishing done.

Another view of finished slides and new front serrations. By the way, standard sights left, night sights right.

Internals NP3'd (locking block, trigger drawbar, ejector). Exterior levers, hammer, and grip screws Roguarded.

 

Robar Technologies' Glock Grip Reductions

   

Left: G22 frame cut down to a model 23 (shorter frame height).   Comparison of reduced backstrap, factory.

Reductions of grip helps one to reach the trigger and Robar adds a secure textured surface to the Glock frame.

   

Cut down G22 frame to accomodate flush, shorter G23 magazines. G19 on right, different backstrap contour.

With reduced arch of a backstrap, some find the firearm much easier to control at speed in handling and firing.

   

Comparison of frame (grip) height and with mags inserted in a G27 and G22 (frame cut down to G23 height).

Right pic: side view of a G19's grip reduction. A slight curve was specified to remain on this G19 backstrap.

   

Here are two possible methods of gripping a small handgun. When frames are short, extensions can help.

Originally designed for the small finger to curl under the mag, short frame handguns were designed optimum  

for legal concealed carry where applicable. Finger rest extensions were created to make it more comfortable.

However, more comfort in grip height = less efficient for concealment.  Larger frames give more control.

 

Continuing report on Vector AK-47

September 20, 2005

  

Ongoing 'test' has continued over three months. It will continue to ? ; as long as I can resist cleaning this AK and doing what should be done (really, you ought to) - for maintaining one's firearms and cleaning after firing!

   

Vector Arms Model AUSA, at the 300 round mark. Of course, we all "know" AKs can handle abuse; just conducting a long term test to see how much crud it can take and how Vector's parkerized exterior holds up.

An earlier Part I report looked at different magazines and feeding characteristics. There are differences and due

to vast numbers and varieties of AKs out there, some magazines will not work as well in one AK as another.

Underside of the reciever magazine well opening, some accumulation of crud. Visible is the mfg Armory USA.

Recievers, mag well openings, mag catches will be different. Some Romanian WASRs had difficulties with

insertion/extraction of mags due to being converted (widened mag openings) from a single stack configuration.

At first stage of AK disassembly; carbon is seen on the recoil spring guide where it goes into the bolt carrier.

Looking inside the reciever, not much particles or fouling, this is around 400 rounds. I doubt it looked any

different at the 300 round mark. AK design allows less firing residue to find their way into the reciever.

Some rust is visible in the gas block. Background: the normally bright gas piston is black, covered with carbon.

L to R: Front view of the recoil spring guide and captured spring, gas piston, gas piston tube, bolt assembly.

Inside slant brake is the expected carbon build-up. Time to fire more rounds! Next report around 600 rounds.

750 rounds

December 10, 2005

The same AK continues to be fired when there is enough time to shoot at least 100 to 200 rounds at a session;

here are pictures of the AK after being handled and fired at the last HRA fun shoot (11-27) without being

wiped down on the exterior (and it will continue to be neglected with no cleaning of the bore or interior).

   

Yes, rust has started on parkerizing - on areas frequently touched like the safety lever, surrounding top cover,

   

bolt handle, mag catch lever, and naturally more fouling accumulated in magazine well and chamber of rifle.

   

Some rust started on trigger and the top of mag has obvious wear marks. For firearms like AKs and variants

that do not have bolt hold-open devices, use something in ejection port (empty 12 gauge hull shown here) to

show chamber clear during cease fire on firing line. Do not rely on any temporary 'hang' of the bolt to the rear.

Developments since the last 400 round report: rear sight leaf is stuck at the battle setting (which is fine to me)

and upper handguard is still loose (wobbles a little left and right) but who cares?  It is all AK and it works!

 Many types of 7.62x39 ammunition continue to be fed into the rifle. By the way, all five types shown seemed

to hit the steel plate at 440 yards with regularity while utilizing the same sight picture and slight 'holdover'.

And, soft point ammo (center box) did sound different when striking the steel. The hollow point fed just fine.

   

(L) Shown for clarity is an "entire front sight" sight picture, (R) is what I use for the approx 440 yd distance.

This is with the rear sight leaf set at the battle setting (without moving it to the 400 mark) as it is stuck there.

In the (L) picture, you can just make out the steel plate (a greyish dot) right above the front sight post.

Accepted is the fact that left-right windage is set and mechanically zeroed at a slightly off-center as seen here.

(R) picture, background and target area is depicted correctly as out of focus as we focus on the front sight.

the firing continues . . .

1100 rounds

March 26, 2006

We all 'know' AKs as well as other military firearms are supposed to take being in the rain or be submerged -

How about actually doing it?!?

The best day yet - a fun shoot where it had been raining for weeks with resultant ponding of water . . .

   

To start off, rounds continue to be fired and the AK left in the rain for March 26's HRA fun shoot. Load mags:

   

insert mag (but for safety considerations, not chamber the first round), and get ready for the plunge:

and into the pond of water it goes! The cheers and groans from other shooters present were awesome.

This is the beginning of the 'real deal' - and it sure does look at home doesn't it?

Let it sit for a minute, then out of the water (and continuing to observe some safety precautions):

let water out of the barrel (the gas tube design has more drainage clearance for sure), chamber the first round:

and of course, it fires perfectly fine. In weeks to follow, we will see how interior holds out. For sensible care

of this firearm, I dried off water inside and out to make sure rust over the next series of months does not cause

any parts malfunctions or failures - after all, this will be utilized for more sessions of shooting as well as be

featured at the July Shooting Sports Fair. Exterior metal has been oiled or developing rust transfers to clothing.

Quite obvious most people would appreciate not having rust brown on their apparel when having fun shooting.

 

 1900 rounds

July 8, 2007

600+ rounds fired during '06 and '07 Shooting Sports Fair contributed to the 1900+ rounds to this date ....

  This continuous report tests functioning of an abused and occasionally fired AK without cleaning 2 years ....

   

Here is where it got even better: foreign crud in the action firing test. Disclaimer: do not recreate this test and

be prepared for stoppages. Yes, with enough grass, dirt and rocks in the action ANY gun will have stoppages.

   

Wonderful part of this however, is that the vast space inside the action of an AK allowed it to throw and crush

most of the crud. When it had failures to feed and close bolt fully, a strong rack of the bolt handle and

simultaneous tilt to the right cleared the stoppage, chambering the next round and the firing could continue.

2200+ rounds

December 23, 2007

Here is the final segment of the AK long-term torture test; more than two years since starting in June 2005

and tracked with a diary in pictures since September 2005. The final hurrah was a bowling pin shoot with

some ferocious firing against some not so ferocious pins (yet must be taken out nontheless!) - fun for sure.

 

 

 

A week after the fun, another session of firing, and now the complete disassembly of the trusty Vector AK:

Lots of caked-on carbon and crud on the bolt carrier and bolt assembly.

 

 

Almost a full two and half years of intermittent firing, round count now just over 2200 rounds.

While this long-term test did not have a high round count (like 10,000 rounds or so), the testing was to

prolong firing and cleaning of an AK over an extended period of time so carbon and crud could accumulate.

No one should abuse their AK or any firearm as depicted here, especially when cleaning time and supplies

are available in some form or another; and because "we should not conduct this gross abuse of a firearm....."

 

Disassembly tips for an AK - the gas tube and lower handguard

   

A professional does it right on disassembly procedures: Remove the source, check chamber, and check again.

   

Press recoil spring guide rod button on rear of reciever to release top cover, remove the recoil guide assembly.

   

Remove bolt carrier assembly - retract fully to rear and lift out of the reciever guide tracks at rearmost position.

   

Gas tube upper handguard's release lever can be rotated with a crescent wrench or original slotted AK tool.

   

Approximate position of release lever to allow upper handguard to be lifted up and out.

   

Remove AK cleaning rod if it's on your rifle. Some AKs don't have them; some are tough to insert/remove.

   

Lower handguard's front retainer has 'L' pin to be rotated forward. Masking tape helps prevent tool marks.

   

Plastic mallet taps retaining cap forward, notice the groove where the 'L' pin would be turned and locked down.

   

Lower handguard tips down. Here's a nice surprise: a wood forend with metal tensioners for retainer cap.

Now the gas tube (upper handguard assembly), gas port, lower handguard assembly and barrel's exterior

 can be cleaned and oiled as desired as well.  Also, any handguard replacement project can be performed.

 
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